Hi. My name is Kris Castro and this is the “Lead Upside Down” podcast where leaders share how they are leading in nontraditional ways based on Jesus’ leadership style. For more information, check out the short ‘trailer’ episode.

Grab your favorite beverage and settle in to enjoy today’s podcast. And if anything resonates with you, feel free to click on my website (www.BeginToShift.com) and schedule a Coffee & Conversation meeting to chat more about it.

Today’s guest is Deb Brown Maher who is an author, artist, speaker and sales trainer. Feel free to connect using any (or all) of the links below.

Website: https://debbrownsales.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbrownmaher
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SellLikeJesus
Book: https://debbrownsales.com/slj-book
Video Course: https://debbrownsales.com/training-course
Art by Deb: https://www.worshipfulart.com